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Mar 10, 11, 0. On almost a weekly basis someone will come along and inquire about dating bottles, with many of the inquiries specifically related to Owens-Illinois bottles, and especially acls.

And althought this subject has been discussed many times in numerous threads, I thought this would be a good time and place to share where I personally obtained most of my information regarding this. The link below will take you to a website that should answer most, if not all of your Owens-Illinois dating questions. And please be sure to save the link in your favorites file for future reference.

It is one of the most informative sites I know of on the subject. I have communicated with the article's author, Bill Lockhart, on numerous ocassions and rate him as one of the most advanced researchers in his field.

And yet, even with this said, the site does not answer "everything" related to Owens-Illinois bottles, which leaves me doing additional research of my own in an attempt to find the answers.

For example; I have often wondered Is the answer Because there were more Owens-Illinois glass plants than any other? Because Owens-Illinois aggressively pursued that market? Because Owens-Illinois was the first and most advanced to adopt the acl process? Or some other reason? Some other reason? So there are still a few unanswered questions as you can see. But for the most part the following site should answer most of your basic questions, and hopefully provide you with a more comprehensive understanding of dating Owens-Illinois bottles in general.

I hope you find this information helpful. And I am sure you will, especially if you enjoy reading the more empirical discourses as I do.

Lesson Number One: What the heck does "Empirical" mean? Answer to one of the questions above Derived from or guided by experience or experiment. Depending upon experience or observation alone. Provable or verifiable by experience or experiment.

Here is an additional question I forgot to list and have often wondered about Some do but not the majority. Because no one thought about it? Because there was no need for it? Because it was not required? By the way Bill Lockhart is not only an advanced researcher, he is also a bonafide "Archaeologist. And here is an example of what is referred to in Bill's article as a "Owens Scar.

Here is an example of a Owens-Illinois amber 7up acl bottle. Note the absence of a dot after the 5 which tells us it is a bottle. But all of the list I have seen indicate that the Portland, Oregon Owens-Illinois glass plant did not begin operation until I do not mention this to challenge anyone, nor to shed the least bit of doubt on Bill Lockhart's extensive research, but rather as another example of a long list of as yet unanswered questions.

The only thing I can think of is that the 21 is a transfer number from a glass plant that closed prior to , and that it was somehow overlooked by the individuals who compiled the various Owens-Illinois list. I will be sure to ask Bill Lockhart about this the next time I e-mail him. The list below is from my acl book. Note the 21 for Portland, Oregon, with indicates a start-up date of approximately If you go back to Bill Lockhart's site you will see a similar list Wheelah23 Well-Known Member.

Aug 9, 4, 36 Glen Ridge, New Jersey. I've come across a lot of bottles, and unfortunately most of them have been newer bottles. Most of these were made by Owens-Illinois.

I've come across bottles with an undotted 1 to the right of the logo. This would at first indicate that the bottle was from However, they also have the "Duraglas" logo on the side, indicating them being from after So, when did Owens-Illinois realize their date code system was flawed? It certainly took place after I believe it was even later, as the same situation occurred with a bottle from It answers your question s to some extent.

But I hear ya and agree there is some confusion regarding all of this stuff. But if they can put a man on the moon I'm sure we will have it all figured out one of these days. Oh, wait! Did they actually put a man on the moon or was it Lol [ ] Thanks for stopping by. Just for the record, I have an original Second Printing of Julian Toulouse's book, "Bottle Makers And Their Marks," and show it here to illustrate where most researchers came up with the Owens-Illinois plant numbers and dates that are so often quoted.

And even though it is almost identical to the one I posted earlier, this one is the real deal, but with a few subtle differences. It has an amazing amount of information that I would be happy to share with anyone who has a specific question they cannot find elsewhere.

I'll do you one better: I took the book out through the local library, then I used my printer's scanner feature to scan every page of the book. Took a few hours, but it was worth it. Now I have a picture of each page of the book stored on my computer. This book is a lifesaver. It's pretty convenient too, AND I got the digital copy for free! Just don't tell the book police They probably wouldn't like to hear about this.

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Curator's Corner. Between 0 and c. With the exception of returnable-refillable beer and soda bottles, most of this glass was not supposed to survive its single use. Possibly the company thought more of its products because every bottle was marked with a factory and date number on the bottom. Michael Owens learned glass making in Wheeling.

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The technology introduced by the company not only changed the way in which bottles were made but it also had a huge impact on what was made. As a new century was ushered in new ideas and ways of thinking were also introduced. Science and technology although still in their infancy by today's standards were remaking the world. There has been much research on using the base marks of Owens bottles to help in dating a particular specimen.

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The base of a bottle typically only has one primary function besides helping hold the bottle together and that is to provide a flat surface for the bottle to stand upright. The following is from the British Glass website and explains it at least in part:. Bottle bottoms aren't flat because they need an arched structure to allow them to be stable on a flat surface. The bottom of a bottle is usually the thickest part, retaining more temperature throughout the production line. Because the bottom is hotter, it is also more fluid and has a tendency to sag, forming a shape like a spinning top which makes it unstable on flat surfaces. Giving a bottle an arched shape at the bottom means that if it does sag, it can do so without touching the bottom. British Glass In conjunction with the finish lip , the various attributes and features found on the base of a bottle allows for some of the better opportunities for the manufacturing based dating of a bottle.

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I am here to clarify a bit of the mystery. Usually, the symbols are a logo for a company, and the numbers a code for where and when the particular glass item was produced. Each glass making company has their own method of labeling their products. With this hub, I am going to focus on the methods used by the Owens-Illinois O-I Company, and show you how to date your glass finds using the symbols and numbers indicative of the O-I company. I am by no means an expert on the numbers, nor am I an expert on how to date glass using the numbers, but I have done a lot of research on the subject, and I am relaying the information I have acquired along my internet travels.

See list of 19 currently operating glass container plants in North America, farther down on this page. Several trademarks have been used over the years by Owens-Illinois.

Проваливай и умри. Он повернулся к Росио и заговорил с ней по-испански: - Похоже, я злоупотребил вашим гостеприимством. - Не обращайте на него внимания, - засмеялась .

Я чуть кожу не содрала, пытаясь его стереть. Да и краска вонючая. Беккер посмотрел внимательнее.

Выполняя поручения людей из высшего эшелона власти, Бринкерхофф в глубине души знал, что он - прирожденный личный помощник: достаточно сообразительный, чтобы все правильно записать, достаточно импозантный, чтобы устраивать пресс-конференции, и достаточно ленивый, чтобы не стремиться к большему.

Приторно-сладкий перезвон каминных часов возвестил об окончании еще одного дня его унылого существования. Какого черта! - подумал.  - Что я делаю здесь в пять вечера в субботу. - Чед? - В дверях его кабинета возникла Мидж Милкен, эксперт внутренней безопасности Фонтейна. В свои шестьдесят она была немного тяжеловатой, но все еще весьма привлекательной женщиной, чем не переставала изумлять Бринкерхоффа.

Старик посмотрел на него с явным недоумением. - У вас какие-то проблемы. Беккер чуть нахмурился: старик говорил по-английски безукоризненно. Он поспешил избавиться от покровительственного тона. - Извините, что я вас побеспокоил, но скажите: вы, случайно, не были сегодня на площади Испании.

Feb 2, - The number to the right of the trademark is the date code; A single digit date code generally means the bottle was produced before ; A single.

Банк данных АНБ - это основа основ тысяч правительственных операций. Отключить все это без подготовки - значит парализовать разведдеятельность во всем мире. - Я отдаю себе отчет в последствиях, сэр, - сказал Джабба, - но у нас нет выбора. - Объясните, - потребовал Фонтейн.

Он очень надеялся, что ничего не сорвалось. Если ключ так хорош, как о нем говорят, он взломает самый совершенный продукт компьютерной эры - абсолютно стойкий алгоритм цифрового кодирования.

Нуматака введет этот алгоритм в чипы VSLI со специальным покрытием и выбросит их на массовый рынок, где их будут покупать производители компьютеров, правительства, промышленные компания.

Первая неделя оказалась последней. Солнечный удар и инфаркт. Бедолага.

Тут что-то не так, - наконец сказала .

ГЛАВА 41 В кладовке третьего этажа отеля Альфонсо XIII на полу без сознания лежала горничная. Человек в очках в железной оправе положил в карман ее халата связку ключей. Он не услышал ее крика, когда ударил ее, он даже не знал, кричала ли она вообще: он оглох, когда ему было всего двенадцать лет от роду.

Человек благоговейно потянулся к закрепленной на брючном ремне батарее: эта машинка, подарок одного из клиентов, подарила ему новую жизнь. Теперь он мог принимать заказы в любой точке мира.

Он обладал почти сверхъестественной способностью преодолевать моральные затруднения, с которыми нередко бывают связаны сложные решения агентства, и действовать без угрызений совести в интересах всеобщего блага. Ни у кого не вызывало сомнений, что Стратмор любит свою страну. Он был известен среди сотрудников, он пользовался репутацией патриота и идеалиста… честного человека в мире, сотканном из лжи. За годы, прошедшие после появления в АНБ Сьюзан, Стратмор поднялся с поста начальника Отдела развития криптографии до второй по важности позиции во всем агентстве.

Теперь только один человек в АНБ был по должности выше коммандера Стратмора - директор Лиланд Фонтейн, мифический правитель Дворца головоломок, которого никто никогда не видел, лишь изредка слышал, но перед которым все дрожали от страха.

Через пять гудков он услышал ее голос. - Здравствуйте, Это Сьюзан Флетчер. Извините, меня нет дома, но если вы оставите свое сообщение… Беккер выслушал все до конца.

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